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Monday, 20 September 2010

Nikki Sinclair to talk at English Democrats conference

Nikki Sinclair MEP is speaking at the English Democrats party conference in Nottingham this week prompting some members to speculate that she might be about to jump ship to the SS Steve Uncles.

As Nikki doesn't support devolution it's unlikely that she'd support the English Democrats anyway but I don't imagine that her appearance at their conference is anything other a leg of her tour of party conferences speaking at fringes.  She was at the UKIP conference a couple of weeks ago and she said she was going to visit every party conference this year (I don't think she made it to either the Green or Lib Dem conference though).

It'll be interesting to see how Nikki is received by some of the more ... interesting characters in the English Democrats.

Posted by wonkotsane at 20:14 

Stephen Morris · 4 days ago

Nikki was very well received, we all enjoyed her speech. There was so many questions from the floor we had to stop them due to running over time. 

 

Greg_L-W. · 

Hi,

I believe Sinclaire was in Strasburgh on a prior commitment during the LibDim conference but I do know she personally paid for staff and the bus to be at their conference.

Perhaps you would care to lend support to an actual initiative to get a Referendum in Britain and raise the possibility of leaving the EU.

See:
http://The Midnight Hour.blogspot.com and see how Patriots can set their childish egos aside and work together for Britain - already Nikki Sinclaire, Roger Helmer, Tim Congdon, Trevor Coleman, Dan Hannan, Mike Nattrass, James Pryor, Paul Nuttall, Bridget Rowe, Douglas Carswell, The BOO Group, TFA, LESC, Global Britain, Ian Milne, Tillbrook & The EDP and many many more are co-operating as individuals and separate organisations putting their shoulder to the one wheel for Britain in co-operation.

Set aside your hang ups, bury your prejudices and put Britain first for a change.

regards,
Greg_L-W.

For the record the EDP's Tillbrook invited James Pryor and Bridget Rowe on the Saturday when their key note speaker was Jon Gaunt and Sinclaire was invited and brought Nattrass to a breakfast meeting with their NEC and as key note speaker for the Sunday.

Neither Mike nor Nikki were unaware of the ovatures but I gather from my EDP sources that Sinclaire stated she would be joining no one for at least a year and had every hope that responsible behaviour might emerge after UKIP's upcoming coronation. In the mean time she is taking The Petition Campaign for an EU Referendum to as much of Britain as she can herself and using staff and supporters for the rest.

I gather from the events section the Battle Van will be in Worcester today and will be at the Tory Conference next week.

Anyone nay EVERYONE is welcome to put their Patriotic shoulder to this Cross Party wheel.

G.L-W.

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"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. ..........

"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. ..........

In a series of debates on socialism published in 1914,  John Basil Barnhill said:





"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."


It is self evident, from correspondence I have seen to day, that neither 
The Petition Campaign for an EU Referendum
nor  
The EU Referendum Campaign
see their initial aim as THE goal.


There will be teething problems as it is early days for both and there will be little mens big egos to deal with as they feel their days of being taken seriously slip away for them, having endlessly provided Einstein with his proof that:


'To repeat the same experiment over and over again and expect a different result is a sign of madness'.


I can not promise but I do believe we can make this time different.


For half a Century we have armed our Government to laugh at us - we have arrived with petitions of 1,000s, sometimes 10,000s even 100s of 1,000s telling our Government we are not serious and we are weak.


You will remember the contempt with which Tony Blair sneared at the electorate when over 1,000,000 marched through London - at his first available opportunity on his feet in The House of Commons he proudly announced this showed that 60,000,000 people in Britain did not march and they were content.


Some may remember his open mic. error when he retorted:
"F**k the electorate"
well he surely did!
He also stuck us with both the bill and the body bags!



It was then that it was made plain for all to see that we lived in a 'tyranny' as the Government had no fear of the people and it was this knowledge that gave him such contempt for the British peoples that he lied to Parliament, he lied to our Monarch and he used our troops as an armed force to carry out his personal goals for his personal ego - his lies led to Crimes Against Humanity and the slaughter of over a Million people - making terrorism on our streets a justifiable action for extremists.




With your help there are 4 differences this time:  


01. 
We are working together - not joining together each individual can take what action they believe is best, in this co-operative venture - whether that is making presentations to the press, lobbying MPs and other Politicians, showing that MPs, Councillors and MEPs seats will fall in disaray if they fail to represent the will of the people.


02. 
We are taking actions which are complimentary as separate organisations acting in harmony and co-operation, I for one am not nor will I be a member of any of the organisations but I will help any Patriot in any way I can to regain our Liberty as a free peoples with sovereign self determination, with our own borders, controlled by our own peoples and SERVED by our own politicians, that we can select and elect AND if they do not Serve in accord with their duty that we can Recall.




03.
But in the background we have a core of people - who will NEVER be known putting together a structure, plans, vison and the very machinery of Government with a national organisation below the radar with organisers and Patriots across these United Kingdoms who are aware that our enemy is NOT membership of The EU, it is NOT some nebulous New World Order, it is NOT Globalism and it surely is NOT Common Purpose or Free Masonry. They bring each their own betrayals and self serving self interest.


Our Country's enemy is a self styles, self serving, self appointed Political elite backed by the betrayal of these United Kingdoms by The Mandarins and minions of The Civil Service and Government, funded by YOU for Your enslavement and their luxury life styles and feather bedded pensions.


As OUR Monarch said: "The enemy within".




04. 
Patriotism being carried out by gaining an initial 100,000 signatures with The Petition Campaign for an EU Referendum the delivery of that petition to Downing Street and to The Petition bag of The Speakers Chair is the first step in raising the publicity stakes to show we are NOT going to go away EVER.


Meanwhile The EU Referendum Campaign will be working to gain pledges of support and making MPs, councillors and MEPs aware that their constituents will NOT quit and DO threaten their seats.



Yes its all been done before but as we move towards our FIRST Million signatures, which is only a matter of collecting 100,000 9 more times, more and more people will become aware and signatures will snowball. 


"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."

 
Be oh so minded of this FACT when you reflect upon OUR Governments betrayal to the rule of aliens centralised in The EU under the malign New Constitution The Lisbon Treaty in all its irrelevant, unlawful dishonesty. 



IF YOU DOUBT that when The Government fears the people they have Liberty be minded that OUR Government and its parasites are currently not only funding the polygamy of Islam and its practices, but permitting variance of our planning laws for specific sectors of those who DEMAND, and also permitting the influx of Sharia Law not JUST to take precedence over British Law for they betrayed that many years ago to the corrupt and undemocratic concepts of Justice from the top down as a 'system of REPRESSION' under The EU's 'Corpus Juris' - but also precedent over the risible Justice of The EU.


Donations will help fund advertising (Can you fund 3 x 1/8 page in the Express for Patriotism just send us a cheque for £20K - or would you rather fund your enemies in taxes?). 


We need only do this 30 more times and we will have the entire adult population working for a free, Fair, Informed Britain and Patriotic Liberty.

We seek the fundamental Human Right of Freedom of Self Determination and it WILL be delivered.









As John Basil Barnhill said:
"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."


'The Enemy Within' would be wise to feel a frisson of fear for we will have Liberty.  




Our aim is Liberty and we will do what it takes - Some may parlez, some may protest, some may be hard to hold back from violence - But we will have OUR Liberty, we will appoint our own Servants and they WILL Serve us. 




We will NOT be bought off with a pat on the head and the assurance that our self serving Political elite and their neophites know best.



We will NOT be bought off with Aesopian language and NLP with their wording for a Referendum and their control of the budget and the media for OUR Referendum.
It will be a FAIR, Informed and EQUALLY FUNDED Referendum.



Do not forget that currently these United Kingdoms are NOT a Lawfull part of The EU as it has been openly admitted that Edward Heath and others of the self styled political elite not only lied to the British Peoples, Parliament and The Queen in Parliament but did so deliberately.


Edward Heath stated before the Nation in a David Frost interview that when he said 'There will be no essential loss of British Sovereignty'
he deliberately lied on behalf of the Government as they believed that if the British peoples knew the truth they would vote NO in the Referendum to enshrine The Treaty of Rome in British Law.


This ignoble betrayal was repeated on the floor of The House of Commons.




Since British Law at the time, upheld by The Treaty of Vienna, clearly stated that should one party to an agreement or contract mislead the other to obtain acquiescence, compliance, participation or commitment by another said agreement or contract shall be as void.




We were outright lied to and lied to with intent to deceive - Britain's authorisation of The Treaty of Rome is thus Null and Void.




Since no subsequent vote of the British peoples has been taken and all subsequent Treaties are merely ammendments of the former these United Kingdoms are NOT bound by said agreements or Treaties.




Thus for our 'Enemy within' to surrender £48 Millions per day of OUR money not only to a body ultra vires to British law in that it does not keep and present adequate legal books and accounting but which has no legal status in British law.




The money is therefore the passing over, by 'The Enemy Within', of stolen money obtained by deceit and handed to an illegal organisation under British Law.




That is not for one moment to fall back on our perfectly valid British Constitution which as recently as the last Government clearly stated that The Magna Carta was NOT an arcane document but a part not only of our heritage but also of our law and valid to this day - I quote The Rt. Hon. Jack Straw in his position as Foreign Secretary.




I am happy to engage with anyone who wishes to debate the issues of Treason and the invalidity of setting it aside under the terms of our Constitution.




Yes THIS TIME it is different because behind the activities of

The Petition Campaign for an EU Referendum

and 

The EU Referendum Campaign

There is a Vision, an emerging Plan, a Determination to gain our Liberty by fair and legal means but be minded Liberty is achieved via One, Two, Three or Four boxes - let us hope 'The Enemy Within' has the good sense to permit the first two to avoid escalation to the Third & Fourth



The First Box is The Soap Box


The Second Box is The Ballot Box

The Third Box is The Ammunition Box


& may our Political elite and their parasites be spared the Fourth Box because:


The Fourth Box is A Coffin.

The John Basil BARNHILL Quote details can be found at CLICK HERE
The Magna Carta can be found CLICK HERE


Before you treat too lighty be minded to read CLICK HERE

*+** Hazel Leads The Day at THE PETITION

*+** Hazel Leads The Day at THE PETITION

Hi,

The Petition Campaign for an EU Referendum is proving hugely successful and providing The Peoples' Petition to support and assist the EU Referendum Campaign which is acting in a complimentary capacity - though we do expect efforts from the dog in the manger brigade who are not true Patriots but will try to drive a wedge between the various genuine campaigns for their personal gain.

You will find it easy to spot the true patriots as they will be only too happy to put their shoulder to any wheell of co-operation for these United Kingdoms leaving their childish rivalries and self interest politically behind them.

Already these two Campaigns are running well together - though from time to time the odd ego will slip out of the box and make a fool of itself of that you can be sure when you have INDEPENDENT campaigners from any and no political Party and every wing and walk of life in our society.

Nikki Sinclaire MEP as the driving force that launched The Peoples' Petition for an EU Referendum is now ably assisted by her team and Mike Nattrass MEP who is also doing sterling work. Whilst Paul Nuttall MEP is doing all he can to promote the success of the Alliance by lending his weight to James Pryor and his team at the EU Referendum campaign.

I gather The Petition for an EU Referendum has now topped 20,000 signatures and is 1/5th. of the way to its initial target of 100,000 signatures - which are flooding in from all corners of these United Kingdoms together with donations from The People backing The Petition and its aims.

The funding is really important as the aim is to use every penny7 piece donated to advance The Petition itself - already there are well advanced plans for a magasine to promote The Petition and the co-operation with the EU Referendum campaign and James Pryor's group with their direct action campaign to make Politicians and business ever more aware and more responsive.

Today Nikki Sinclaire MEP, in the belief that Britain before Brussels is important did not go to waste time in The EU Parliament enjoying the luxury and benefits of her expense account but did some worthwhile work and drove to North wales to be with an incredible lady and to thank Hazel for her achievements so far.

Let us let Nikki Sinclaire tell it in her own words:

A true inspiration

Today I had the pleasure of meeting Hazel from North Wales who has collected over 500 signatures for the 100,000 petition ‘Campaign for a Referendum’ on the UK’s membership of the EU. Hazel has never been a member of a political party and only found out about the campaign when a friend showed her the leaflet. She felt so strongly about the cause, she immediately went out and completed the first form and then contacted my office for more forms. 

Hazel recently lost her husband who she cites as her inspiration. Shortly before his death she found him crying, she asked him why. He replied that he was upset about his country and the mess the politicians have made of it. Hazel told me this campaign was way overdue and the British people deserved a say on how they were governed. She goes out two/three times a day and has vowed to continue.

My mum, despite a recent hip operation and a problematic recovery has collected over 300 signatures. We get many calls to the office and receive lots of completed forms on a daily basis. I am overwhelmed at the level of support and the dedication of these people who truly are a inspiration to our cause.

END OF QUOTE

The really pleasing part of this whole effort is: 

Firstly just how well received it is 'on the doorstep'.

Secondly how rapidly & willingly the two campaigns are working together.

Thirdly the fact that The Petition is getting completed sheets of signatures from all over Britain - many downloaded from this site and their own.

Fourthly just how widespread the response is, as it was initially feared it would take a while to spread beyond The West Midlands where it was launched.

ANY HELP any contribution and any support for the two campaigns is very welcome - this is a totally cross Part initiative and is NOT about childish egos it is about two organisations acting together in their own particular ways out of Patriotism and a belief in the Democratic Rights of The British Peoples.

Handing Self Determination to The British People.

Nikki SINCLAIRE & Mike NATTRASS, James Pryor & Bridget Rowe @ EDP MEETING for The PETITION!

Nikki SINCLAIRE & Mike NATTRASS, James Pryor & Bridget Rowe @ EDP MEETING for The PETITION!

& A STRANGE STORY OF BETRAYAL of UKIP by THEIR LEADERSHIP!!

Hi,


The Keynote Guests at The English Democrats' AGM were on The Saturday John Gaunt of radio celeb status, an avowed and OUT EUrosceptic and James Pryor and Bridget Rowe were there to meet and greet old friends and new in promoting their EU Referendum Campaign - complimentary, as you can see if you CLICK HERE to the Key Note speakers on The Sunday who were Nikki Sinclaire & Mike Nattrass promoting THE Petition Campaign for A Referendum.


Here is Sinclaire's blog entry just now:

Speaking at the English Democrats

 I along with fellow West Midlands MEP, Mike Nattrass was pleased to have the opportunity to speak at the English Democrat AGM in Nottingham today having had a very successful business breakfast meeting with their leadership team.

We spoke individually and then took questions about the European Union, being an MEP, and the Campaign for a Referendum. It was an enjoyable and interesting experience exchanging views and developing an understanding of each other’s perspective.

It is these cross party initiative that are so important if we are going to win the day. 

 

I look forward to further dialogue.

Ps.  I was quite surprised to learn during our breakfast meeting the overtures made by Malcolm Pearson towards an electoral pact during the general election.

Pearson supported by Steve Crowther and Peter Reeeve met with the English Democrat leadership, with the blessing of Nigel Farage

Constituencies where UKIP would not stand were agreed however, as with so much else Pearson undertakes, he reneged on this undertaking costing UKIP considerable support in the areas that they had agreed.

Posted by Nikki Sinclaire MEP  

at Sunday, September 26, 2010 0 comments  

 

*The PETITION + EURC in NEW EUROPE, JUNIUS & UKIP-vs-EUkip

*The PETITION + EURC in NEW EUROPE, JUNIUS & UKIP-vs-EUkip

UKIP's SPOILER IS THE THIRD BUS 
- SET TO YET AGAIN PICK UP FEW PASSENGERS!
UKIP's LAST TWO SEEM TO HAVE BEEN SCAMS!

Hi,
two complimentary Buses with different and complimentary routes to the same destination and a rag tag of fly by night taxis trying to pick up funding and a few bewildered passengers put out by The UKIP Garage.
Should that be UKIP's Farage as the last two petitions he has been party to were nothing more than blatant scams.
They were NEVER delivered and the £1/4 Million of tax payers money that went into one was never accounted, and seems to have vanished into the pockets of those responsible, as did possibly £1+ million or more from the Ashford scam, seemingly founded on the addresses garnered from the petition, and a breech of the ethics of Data Protection!
It is worrying that even after the huge amount of money that went missing unaccounted from Ashford where even David Bannerman as Farage's puppet chairman admitted there had been no control and less than 15% of the money collected for UKIP ever reached the party, whether that included the money laundered through Graham Booth's hotel accounts he did not specify!!
To see the same team - Farage, Bannerman and Croucher (with Lott once more, presumably again using the data base - mailing out letters to promote Farage's financial interests) all merrily launching a new fleet of 'dodgey taxis' but even more purturbingly doing it in a childish and petulent assault on The Peoples' Petition because it is run by Nikki Sinclaire MEP, aided now by Mike Nattrass MEP and The EU Referendum Campaign because James Pryor and Bridget Rowe set it up and Dan Hannan MEP and Paul Nuttall MEP have joined it!!
You will even note that Farage has his team all working closely together for his re-election, and clearly states NOTHING about a petition but openly advocates a call center. Be minded when he pronounced that Ashford was the most successful thing UKIP has ever done yet, to the press, for whom one must ask, as 85% of the money raised AT LEAST would seem to have vanished! We note he clearly states his intention to set up another 'Call Center'!
You may care to note that since the article below was written it has been agreed that http://TheMidnightGroup.Blogspot.com form a point of referrence for GENUINE petitions and although JUNIUS somewhat harshy claims Farage was refused participation - strictly that is not true just as he was not refiused co-operation with Libertas and Declan Ganley it seems there he was refused access to the funds and with The EURC hethey were not willing to put him in charge!
So like a spoilt child he registered Libertas at Companies House to try to blackmail declan Ganley - he failed (as of course did Ganley but little wonder!).
It looks like de Ja Vu all over again! Farage is acting like a spoilt child and using UKIP to try to run a spoiler annoyed that those who have moved onno longer enthralled watching him feather his own nest at the expense of Britain and UKIP.
What must particularly annoy is that The Peoples' Petition is already up to about 20,000 (exact No. not counted as they have only counted full sheets of 10 signatures those with 9 0r less have not been counted and are slowly being filled by incoming phone calls - the estimated 20,000 I am assured is a fair judgement) - either way that outstrips Farage's previous petitions!
The aim is to get the first 100,000 and deliver them to Drowning Street and the certificate of delivery with the petition to The Speaker's Chair as demanded by our democracy. It is expected that the donations already in on top of Ms. Sinclaire's substantial personal contribution will now put The Peoples' Petition in a self liquidating position to advertise to back and promote the achievement with the second and subsequent 100,000s progressively easier to obtain as the public catch on.
Meanwhile the efforts of The EURC ploughs its own complimentary furrow working with The Peoples' Petition but aimed at solid promotion of the need for a referendum on In or OUT of The EU with politicians, Councils, Commerce and big businesses - already Labour EUro Safeguards Campaign is on board as are The Boo Group and representatives of major Trades Unions.
Please enlarge this form to the appropriate size and print off a few to get filled in by family and friends - neighbours and work mates - maybe even strangers!!

For details of how YOU can help and participate CLICK HERE

The Third Bus

Author: Andy Carling 12 September 2010 - Issue : 902

The Brits, with their characteristic downbeat outlook have a saying, “you wait forever for a bus and then three arrive at the same time”. A situation that anyone who has been hanging around Place Luxembourg can relate to. 

And so, it applies to referendum petitions. The British eurosceptics, peeved at being denied a referendum on Lisbon have been racing to organize campaigns, asking the Brits to sign petitions asking for a referendum on EU

So far, three have turned up. It’s uncertain how many more are due.
First out the starting gate was Nikki Sinclaire MEP, who left the EFD Group because of what she saw as anti-semitism and homophobia amongst its members. Her campaign, which she dubs ‘the people’s petition’ is trying to raise 100,000 signatures. She argues that the UK is neither in, nor outside the EU and a referendum on membership will provide a firm position for the country’s future relationship with Europe, either inside or outside the union.
She is touring the UK garnering signatures. She claims to have had 10,000 in the first week of campaigning.
UKIP responded to this by launching a referendum petition of their own their third in recent years. One that closed in 2008 had 10,782, another one, launched in November 2009, seems to have disappeared. It remains to be seen how the latest will do, but there doesn’t seem to be much promotion behind it and it is said that some UKIP people are a little embarrassed about launching a second petition.

Enter Dan Hannan. He has launched a third petition. This is the slickest of them all, and possibly crucially, has support from the left and right. The move, which announces itself as a “ballsy, cutting edge campaign” is getting the most press and is a much more professional effort, even though it was the last one off the ground. They say that, “It’s a sad fact that Britain is sleepwalking into the European Super-State and Britain must wake up to the nightmares hiding under the sheets of Brussels. EU laws and directives made without our knowledge or consent, behind locked doors of the most complicated clauses and sub-clauses imaginable.”

Sadly, there is no joint campaign against cliches and tired metaphors. To view the full article CLICK HERE as it seems there is also no joint campaign for tired associations to fill column inches!

 INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance

&

Work With THE MIDNIGHT GROUP to

Reclaim YOUR Future 

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GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

(IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate)

LEAVE-THE-EU

to Reclaim YOUR Future 

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GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

* TELEGRAPH - 11-Sep-2010 - Dan HANNAN - "that’s a 59-41 per cent “No” vote"

* TELEGRAPH - 11-Sep-2010 - Dan HANNAN - "that’s a 59-41 per cent “No” vote"

New YouGov poll: Britain would vote by 47 per cent to 33 to leave the EU

Exclude the “Don’t knows” and that’s a 59-41 per cent “No” vote. Euroscepticism is especially strong among women, Conservatives and non-Londoners (see here for poll details).

Yet this opinion finds almost no echo in Parliament. Only two-and-a-half per cent of of MPs are declared opponents of EU membership; if you exclude Northern Ireland MPs, the figure drops to below one per cent.

All the more reason, then, to demand the referendum we have been repeatedly promised by all parties. Please go to EUReferendumCampaign.com and sign The Pledge.

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• Bad poll news for Labour and Tories on spending cuts (leftfootforward.org)
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