Tuesday, 11 January 2011

25-Feb-1970 - Don't Say You Were Not Warned! Enoch POWELL WARNED US ALL!



Mr. Powell
My hon. Friend is trying to take me into other and perhaps more distant fields by his intervention.
The fact is—and the Chancellor of the Exchequer settled for this in his argument—that our prospects of growth depend not upon association with one country or the other, but upon our own internal and external environment. Incidentally, I noticed that it was my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition who, almost alone in this debate, made the point that, after all, something does depend upon us and on the way in which we manage our affairs in this country.
The wider argument which is put forward is that of the large market. A very simple piece of sleight-of-hand is performed by those who operate with this argument. They start by saying, "Nowadays, in the important and progressive branches of production, it is necessary to have a large market." In the next sentence, they slip in the word "domestic". They go on to say, "Having agreed, then, that it is necessary to have a large domestic market, it follows that this, that, or the other." There is a gap in the argument, across which there is no real bridge.
Of course, a large market is needed for certain lines of production; but that market does not need to be a domestic market wholly under the control of the producers. The world is littered with examples of firms in some of the countries with the very smallest domestic markets which dominate the world and have got the world market. Firms of this sort in such countries as Switzer- land, Sweden, and Denmark are household names. There is literally no co-relation between the size of the domestic market of an economy and its rate of progress. The whole idea of a specific relationship between the two is mythical. Perhaps the only case in point that one can find is that of the United States, which is at the top of both leagues.
Of course, if we were just talking about free access to that European market to which 20 per cent. of our trade goes already, it would not be necessary to have this debate. But the large market which Britain needs and will need for her most intensive forms of production is not one which we ought to circumscribe even to the market of Western Europe. What this country needs is the utmost freedom to choose and to find, for each commodity and line of production, the market which offers the best opportunities. So I reject the argument from the assumed necessity of a large domestic market, which is really a false deduction from the necessity of a large market for many, though not for all, lines of production.
I come last in this economic section to the blood-curdling argument with which the Foreign Secretary ended his speech. He said, "Ah, yes, but what will it be like for us at the end of the century —for little us, with the giant United States across the Atlantic and the giant unit in Western Europe?" He asked how we shall fare under the shadow of these two great political—and I will come to "political" in a moment—and economic units. I refuse to be frightened by this prospect. In any case, I regard it as an unreal bogey. But, supposing it to be real, and accepting the hypothesis for a moment I refuse to be frightened by it.
Are we at any great disadvantage in our international trade because of the immense size and power and economic strength of the United States? It is one of the very best markets of the United Kingdom, and surely it will continue to be. Is the argument that our trade today would be healthier and more lucrative if the Confederates had won the Civil War, or the plantations had never been united? The existence of that tremendous economic unit in the Western Hemisphere does not damage this country. If I were put to it, I would rather argue the thesis that it assists than that it damages this country.
Similarly, I see no reason why we should be damaged by trading with a large, efficient and economically prosperous unit, if there is to be such, in Western Europe or in Europe. But that brings us from the economic to the political. Let us look at the sort of unit that it would be on the Foreign Secretary's hypothesis. It would be a unit compact "economically, legally, commercially and politically". The right hon. Member for Belper brought the House to the real issue before us when he said that we have to envisage on behalf of our fellow countrymen all that would be implied in the United Kingdom being embodied in a Western European unit, compact "economically, legally, commercially and politically".
Most hon. Members are agreed that the movement of public opinion in the recent past has been unfavourable to entry to the Common Market. Time and again in this debate, hon. Members have asked what has been the reason for this sudden, sharp and indubitably hostile crystallisation. I believe that the reason is that the deeper implications, especially the political implications, have at last been candidly disclosed both from the side of the Common Market and from the side of its advocates in this country. There is no disposition in the White Paper to mince matters. Paragraph 9 refers to the prospect before the Community as being progress towards "economic and monetary unification", towards "a common social policy", and towards "political unification".
We are now told that, whatever be the form—federal, confederal, or whatever—that is what the Common Market is about. Whether or not we are to be compacted with it, it is to be a unit which increasingly has common monetary, economic and social policies. Only today, in a report from Paris, I was reading how the political leaders in the European Economic Community accepted "that there must be meaningful harmonisation of policies". The report goes on: This means that such things as growth targets, rates of inflation, unemployment, budgets and taxation must eventually all conform to a community standard. Are not social policies, growth targets, unemployment, development and taxation the very stuff of politics, about which we in this House argue day and night? Are they not the subjects about which we compare our differing opinions and objects before the electors, seeking to bring them to our point of view? This is what politics is about, what this House is about, what the electoral system of the country is about—how our social services shall be organised, how we shall be taxed, how the development of different parts of the Kingdom shall be managed or not managed, [Interruption.] Yes, and ways and means. I do not go into legal matters: I will rest with these economic and social questions.
The President of the Community has told us that, in his view, there will be a common currency by the end of the 1970s; and think what we have all gone through together in the last few years for the value of the £ sterling. If the Community is to be a community in which these matters increasingly are decided in common, then his other prediction must come true, too, that there will also be a European Parliament elected on universal suffrage by the end of the 1970s. It is the view of Her Majesty's Government that a true Parliament—one like this, one which sustains and criticises a government dealing with the heart and soul of political matters that affect ordinary people—is implicit in the European Common Market. The right hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Duchy said in a Written Answer on 2nd February: I would remind the hon. Member "— my hon. Friend the Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne)— of the Government's view, set out in the Anglo/Italian Declaration … that 'Europe must be firmly based on democratic institutions and the European Communities should he sustained by an elected Parliament …[OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd February, 1970; Vol. 795, c. 3.] All pretence is now aside. All the words with which we amused ourselves two or three years ago, eight or 10 years ago—I confess that I also amused myself, along with the rest—that this was really an economic matter, a matter of trade, and that the rest was pure theorising: "a few European theorists, perhaps, but we pragmatic British take no notice of that"—that is all stripped aside. The question we are deciding is whether we can and will enter into a political unit that deals with all the major matters of political life affecting the daily lives of all the people in this country, under a Government sustained by a European elected Parliament. Elected it must be; nothing else would be imaginable or acceptable.
We have to say whether that makes sense or nonsense to us. The British people have to say—I think that they are saying already—whether it is sense or nonsense to them, whether they can imagine it and whether, if they can imagine it, they want it. Now, an electorate which sustains a true Parliament has to be an homogeneous electorate. By that I mean that every part of the electorate has consciously to say, "We are part of the whole; we accept the verdict of the majority as expressed at the polls and then, somewhat curiously, reflected in the composition of this House".
That is why this Parliament works. That is why this Parliament is our pride and our guardian, because it rests on an electorate which, with vanishing exceptions, is in that sense homogeneous in that it is prepared to accept the verdict of the majority, because it feels that it is the majority of themselves.
The question posed to us is: can we now, or in the next 10 years, or in the foreseeable or imaginable future, believe that the people of this country would regard themselves as so much part of an electorate comprising 200 to 250 million other electors—

Mr. George Brown
Three hundred million white people.

Mr. Powell
—that they would accept the majority view on taxation, on social policy, on development, on all the matters which are crucial to our political life? I have to confess that I do not believe such an attitude of mind is foreseeable.
I do not believe that is the outlook of our people. I do not believe that in that sense, which is the necessary sense, they identify themselves, as part of a whole, with the electorate of Western Europe. It may be that they should; but that is not the question. It may be that we should be a different people from what we are; but that is not the question. The question is whether this is sense or nonsense, practicable or impracticable.

Mr. George Brown
If it is a question whether they should or should not, may I ask the right hon. Gentleman what advice we should give them? I repeat the interjection that I rudely made while sitting down, against the rules of the House, that they are all white. Why should not we say to 300 million white people that we should all agree and work it out and accept the majority decision? I ask the right hon. Gentleman: what is so wrong about that?

Mr. Powell
There is nothing right or wrong with it. The question is: what is the present or the foreseeable outlook, feeling and belief of the people of this country? We cannot alter that by saying "Oh, would that it were different! Would that they did regard the people of Western Germany and the people of Sicily as so much a part of the same electorate that they would bow to the general majority decision, as the people of Cornwall and Devon, however reluctantly, today accept the decisions of the United Kingdom Parliament!"
Moving into the third and last of the areas—the military area—I want to put this to the most acid test. We are told that the European Common Market is necessary to us, with all its political implications, for defence. My right hon. Friend the Member for Streatham (Mr. Sandys) said yesterday: European unity is equally essential from the standpoint of military security".—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 24th February, 1970, Vol. 796, c. 1053.] I accept that, as has been pointed out many times, the United States is contributing more to the defence of Western Europe than all the Western European countries together. I accept that the probability is that the American contribution will diminish over the years to come. But I, then ask: what is the relevance of that to the question of political unity for military purposes?
We have an alliance in N.A.T.O. with all these countries that links us with them and with Canada and the United States. Is the contention, since our contribution to European defence is deficient and since the continental countries are paying a lesser proportion of their national income for defence than we are, that, if we were amalgamated, if there were a central political authority, a central political will, we would all pay more? Is it the proposition that what the individual countries are not willing to contribute they would be made to contribute by a unitary Government? Is that the argument?

An Hon. Member
Yes.

Mr. Powell
If that is the argument, I am not sure that I like the idea of a unitary Government with power to impose upon these populations a military effort which apparently they do not at present voluntarily accept.
Of course, there can be a genuine military argument here. If the military capabilities of all the countries concerned were put under one command and one political leadership, in the sense that the American forces are under the President or the British forces are under Her Majesty's Government, then the same forces, I agree, would be more effective; but let us follow this through. Let us imagine that the alliance has been replaced by political unity, and that one of the essential functions of that political unity is military organisation, military preparation and military decision.

Mr. George Brown
And foreign affairs.

Mr. Powell
Yes, and foreign affairs.
I want to put this most solemn question to the House, a question which we have a duty to face; for we are asked to say yea or nay, and the country is asked to say yea or nay, on this issue above all others. The question is this: in 1940 we were members of an alliance. Let us suppose that instead of being members of an alliance, we had been members of a political unit with a military function.

An Hon. Member
There would not have been a war with Germany.

Mr. Powell
Someone says, "there would not have been a war". I proceed, ignoring the foolish optimism of those who think that because there are military preparations there will be no war. [Interruption.] The use of military force to balance other military force is what we are talking about—I go back to 1940; for this is how the people of this country instinctively see it and put it to themselves.
Suppose, I say, there had not been an alliance, but suppose, instead, that we and our forces—I mean the forces raised from this kingdom—had been part of a political and military unit with a single political Government and a single command, a unit much larger in relation to the United Kingdom than the alliance of France and Britain was. I ask: does anyone suppose that the force which saved this country and saved liberty would not have been thrown into the lost battle by that political unit and swallowed up in defeat?
That is what is meant by political unity. [HON. MEMBERS: "No."] Hon. Members will not face it. [HON. MEMBERS: "It is not true."] Hon. Members have to come to face the difference between political unity, which means what is says, and alliance. This is the acid test of whether we identify ourselves with the electorate of the rest of Western Europe, so that we regard ourselves as part of that whole just as surely as Coventry and Bristol regarded themselves as part of the United Kingdom in 1940.
Captain Walter Elliot (Carshalton) rose

Mr. Powell
I have almost finished. This is my last word.
I do not believe that that is the outlook of the people of the country. I do not believe that they so regard themselves now or will so regard themselves in the foreseeable future. That is why I believe that, whatever we say in this House, whatever White Papers we publish, whatever negotiations we enter into, when the reality is comprehended it will be rejected by the people of Britain.
6.52 p.m.
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11-Jan-2011 - Hugh Fearnely Whittingstall confronts EU bureaucracy


Hugh Fearnely Whittingstall confronts EU bureaucracy

Hugh Fearnely Whittingstall Make sure you turn on Channel 4, tonight at 9pm.
A new series, presented by Hugh Fearnely Whittingstall, looks at Britain's fishing industry. He ask why so much fish is thrown back into the sea dead, why so little of the UK catch is sold here, and exploes the supermarket claims about the fish they sell.
In the series, Hugh Fearnely Whittingstall looks at EU rules and regulation on fishing. The programme reports on the impact of EU fishing quotas and how the UK's North Sea trawler fleet is throwing away almost one million tonnes of edible fish every year to keep within the quotas.
Hugh launches his most ambitious campaign yet, to try and put an end to this shameful practice. It's a fight which will take him right up to the corridors of power in Brussels.
Hugh's Fish Fight airs every night this week, at 9pm, on Channel 4.

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Monday, 10 January 2011

09-Jan-2011 - EU TO GRAB YET MORE POWER - EXPRESS

 09-Jan-2011 -
EU TO GRAB YET MORE POWER - EXPRESS

EU TO GRAB YET MORE POWER

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The 2007 Lisbon Treaty has given the European Commission greater powers to draw up new laws


 

By Kirsty Buchanan, Political Editor


MPs will be powerless to prevent Ministers signing away sweeping controls over policing and justice to Brussels, despite the European Union Bill currently going through Parliament.
The legislation, due to reach its crucial Committee Stage on Tuesday, is supposed to stop the drain of sovereign powers to Brussels without a referendum or Parliamentary approval.
However damning research by respected independent think tank Open Europe has revealed a series of loopholes that will leave huge areas of justice and home affairs open to EU takeover.
At the heart of the Bill is the Government’s so-called Referendum Lock, designed to give British citizens a vote over any proposals for major transfers of power from Westminster to the EU.
However, critics say the lock could be “picked by a child” because, as it currently stands, the Bill neglects a huge range of areas where British Ministers will be able to opt into new EU laws without even seeking approval from MPs in Parliament.
The 2007 Lisbon Treaty has given the European Commission greater powers to draw up new laws, it has given the European Parliament the power to amend them and the European Court of Justice more power to enforce them.


Open Europe wants a series of amendments to the Bill that would force Ministers to get the approval of Parliament before opting into justice and home affairs matters and in certain cases make a referendum obligatory.
Author Stephen Booth said: “It would be extremely easy to give Parliament and voters more control over whether the Government concedes more power to the EU in this area.
“This is a huge opportunity to make the UK’s cooperation with Europe more democratic and may help rebuild some of the electorate’s confidence in Parliament, so badly lost when the Lisbon Treaty was forced through.
“MPs should demand the right to approve the decisions the Government makes in the name of their constituents. The EU’s growing ambitions in justice and home affairs deserve Parliament’s undivided attention. It would be a colossal own-goal for MPs to pass up this golden opportunity.”

Open Europe says that the EU Bill, which has already attracted more than 40 amendments, is full of loopholes.
For example the Bill says a referendum must be held over whether we should have a European Public Prosecutor, but not over the extension of the powers of Eurojust, a body which at the moment aids prosecutors, magistrates and police across the EU to share information that helps them fight crime.
However Brussels bureaucrats are planning to transform it into an organisation that investigates major crime cases, with the power to order arrests and trials.
Another loophole exists because the subject of family law has been left out of the requirement in the EU Bill for a referendum to be held before Britain gives up its remaining vetoes over most home affairs and justice issues.
The present arrangement on new EU legislation gives the Government three months to decide whether to opt in or out.
Opting in allows Ministers to take part in negotiations over the new laws but if the proposal ends up as something with which it does not agree it is unable to opt out again.
The EU Bill is seen as an attempt to appease Conservatives on the centre-right following David Cameron’s 2009 U-turn over his promise to hold a referendum over the Lisbon Treaty.
But Brussels baiters have branded it a “fig leaf” designed only to spare the Prime Minister’s blushes. And they say it does as much to highlight Westminster’s impotence as it does to boost Parliamentary authority.
Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Indpendence Party, said: “The Referendum Lock could be picked by a child.
“Designed the way it is, this law makes things less democratic rather than more by handing even more power to the courts. It is marketing without product.”
Labour leader Ed Miliband has hinted his MPs may join Tory rebels to defeat the legislation. While the threat is likely to prove hollow, Mr Cameron could ill afford a defeat in an area where his leadership is seen as weak.
He failed in his battle to secure a freeze on this year’s European budget and the sight of British money being pumped into an Irish euro bailout has inflamed anti-European sentiment among British voters.
The EU Referendum Campaign has already attracted tens of thousands of signatures of support.
It has conducted a series of polls which have shown most Britons want the chance to vote in a referendum that will let them decide if we should stay in the EU or leave. 

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Sunday, 9 January 2011

09-Jan-2011 - Telegraph - Has William HAGUE Been in Panto?

09-Jan-2011 - Telegraph - Has William HAGUE Been in Panto?
Hi,

I am forced to wonder if the wee lad has been having one of his multi pint moments or perhaps he has been in Panto and like Rip van Winkel has been a sleep for many long years - what a rude awakening he must have had that having been party to enacting the passing of every item of legislation since his election to Parliament in 1989 - let us not forget that William Hague is 50 this year and we first saw him as a child at a Conservative Party conference giving his cringeworthy performance way back in 1977 - He must have been asleep!

Now blinking he has emerged into the full light of day and seems surprised that these United Kingdoms have been betrayed by both his own party and the lies of Labour.

What the point of his long after the event mutterings are is hard to guess.

The Tories still not read The New Constitution aka Lisbon Treaty - what are they taliking about when they say they promise a referendum on transfering further powers to The EU!! Perhaps William Hague could during his next long nap dream up what powers are left that could be transfered that are of any consequences.
The Treaty of Rome made it very clear - it was only the lies of Ted Heath, Rippon et al that obfuscated the matter THIS IS A POLITICAL & ECONOMIC UNION - how can William Hague not realise or is he using the same device as Norman Tebbit and Margaret Thatcher and pretending they had no idea until they are out of office - frankly I never believed Margaret Thatcher as she cut deals at Brughes to save fave, trading agricultural subsidies for rebates to look good!

Is William Hague really that stupid that he actually believes his article or is Ffion in the background pulling the strings?

We don't WANT a referendum on transfer of power that they already have - we want a referendum to either quit the pretence of being a Country with laws, justice and government (the status quo) or repatriating all our human rights of self determination, re-patriating our democracy, restoring our Sovereignty, re-establishing our Justice and values and reinstating our Liberty & freedom -
Nothing less than an OUT / IN Referendum is acceptable.

Wake up Wee Willie Winkie time to climb the stairs and join the real world!

No more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU

Our system for approving European treaties is morally bankrupt, says Foreign Secretary William Hague.

No more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU
William Hague thinks we must change the law to ensure that by law the British people's wishes can never be ignored in such a way again Photo: AFP/GETTY
The disillusionment of British voters with politicians has many causes: expenses scandals, economic pressures and the failures of the last Labour Government.
But high on the list of such causes is the sheer undemocratic arrogance with which a European treaty of huge significance - the Lisbon Treaty - was rammed into law two years ago with no mandate of any kind from the people of this country.
Labour's cynical behaviour over that Treaty, the denial of any say for voters and the absurd pretence that this was nothing ordinary people should be allowed to concern themselves with was a very grave blow to the European Union's democratic credentials in this country and has caused deep and lasting anger.
I would have dearly loved to hold a referendum on that treaty after a change of government: sadly the ratification of Lisbon by all 27 EU states last autumn made that impossible. But I have always been determined that this flagrant denial of democratic choice to the people of Britain would never happen again.
The current system we have for these kinds of decisions is, quite simply, now morally bankrupt. It must change.
It is our firm belief and our policy that no more powers should be moved from Britain to the EU but that is not enough – if any Government ever again attempted to change the EU Treaties to transfer further powers the British people must rightfully have their say.
So we must change the law to ensure that by law the British people's wishes can never be ignored in such a way again. This will mark a fundamental shift of power from Government to Parliament and to the voters of this country, a shift long overdue.
The EU Bill we are bringing forward will put into the British people's hands a referendum lock on any further changes to the EU's Treaties that hand over powers from Britain to the EU, a lock to which only they will hold the key.
In the great detail necessary to cover the complexity of those Treaties and the various kinds of treaty change the Bill sets out in clear terms when Ministers must put a treaty change to a referendum.
Not only will Parliament now be given a full say over all kinds of treaty change but any treaty change that hands over powers to the EU or extends its control over any area of policy will also be subject to a referendum.
Not only would the removal of the veto over any of 44 separate treaty articles require a referendum, or the substantive use of any of 12 treaty articles, the Bill also lays down strict and comprehensive tests which will capture transfers of power on any change to the Treaties – whether an attempt to increase the EU's powers over an existing area of policy or any reach into a new area of policy.
If any one of these tests are met – it is worth noting that the Lisbon Treaty would have been caught in numerous separate ways – then the law will require a referendum, and if any minister decides to ignore them then, like any other ministerial decision, they will be subject to judicial review in the courts.
So any British citizen will be able to go to court to enforce the electorate's rights and ensure that ministers cannot wriggle out of a referendum.
Some people have argued that the Bill does not go far enough or has loopholes. But the truth is that only in a few minor areas does it give the ministers of the day any discretion at all about the calling of a referendum - and then only if they can persuade parliament and the courts that they are right. When it becomes an Act this will be the strongest defence of national democracy put in place anywhere in Europe. It is a massive advance for national democracy.
And not only will current and future ministers in this country know that they cannot hand over powers without a referendum but other nations' governments will too. It will always have to be in their minds if they are contemplating changing the EU Treaties that any consequent increase in the EU's powers would trigger a binding referendum in the United Kingdom.
In its sovereignty clause the Bill also deals with one potential but important problem for the future. It has been argued before the courts and by academic commentators that our membership of the EU has altered our ancient doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty. That doctrine is a matter that should be beyond such speculation, so the Bill confirms and affirms the position that EU law in this country is only recognised by virtue of the authority of acts of Parliament.
Such a defence for our nation's democracy is a necessary complement to our vigorous and active engagement within the EU, an engagement which is already delivering solid results in our national interest: tough, targeted EU sanctions on Iran, a free trade agreement with South Korea and the beginnings of some financial reality in the EU budget.
This Bill is not a panacea for all the many additional problems in the EU we have to solve, but it does mean that in the future the most important decisions of all will belong not to the executive alone, or even Parliament, but the British people themselves. New rights given to people are, quite properly, hard and politically painful to claw back, so this Bill ought to become part of our settled constitutional order.
The Labour Party that voted against a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty now have a decision to make: can they recognise that the first step to political recovery is the admission of past mistakes and lend their support to this radical step to strengthen our democracy, or will they try to deny the British people their new democratic power? 

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Saturday, 8 January 2011

08-Jan-2011 - I TOTALLY SUPPORT Richard's Comment re EUroScepticism BUT!

08-Jan-2011 - I TOTALLY SUPPORT Richard's Comment re EUroScepticism BUT!

A cracked record - by Richard... Saturday, January 08, 2011


I feel a bit like Robin Horbury here, who writes a fine piece on Biased BBC himself complaining about feeling like a "cracked record". You can only keep on saying the same things over and over again for so long before even you get tired of your own voice.

Another thing I also get a little bit tired of is being branded the "bad sod", the one who is always out on his own, who can't join in and put his weight behind the common cause.

That much has been put to me about the Referendum Campaign and also the anti-EU campaign in the Daily Express, which has culminated in the publication today of a 23-page booklet, telling us that we must, "Get Britain out of the EU".

It is not, of course, that we do not agree with the sentiment, but the front cover tells you everything you need to know about the eurosceptic thinking in this country. Redolent of the famous 1940 Low cartoon (inset below), it has the trademark Express crusader standing on the cliffs of Dover, looking out toward the Continent – where (by inference) the "enemy" exist.

And here the "cracked record" comes in. The EU is not a foreign construct imposed on us. Our government is an enthusiastic part of the EU nexus and the only reason we are in the EU is because Parliament permits it. It is not looking over the Channel to the Continent that our brave crusader needs to be doing. He needs to be looking inwards, tearing down the gates of Westminster. The enemy is within.

That said, if there was any doubt that the Express had lodged itself in the last century, we just need to read the offering from editor Peter Hill, where the tone – and content – would be familiar to anyone who had attended UKIP meetings ... of the '90s.

All the buzz-words are there, "sovereignty", the mandatory reference to "Napoleon" and "Hitler", the "wine and milk lakes" and the "butter and grain mountains", not forgetting, of course, the swipe at the "superstate".

I have written too many pieces on this blog about the fate of euroscepticism to want to repeat them, but in the forty years, on an off, that I've been fighting the EU, I would like to think I've learnt a thing or two about the enemy, and how to fight it.

Mr Peter Hill of the Express, however, doesn't appear to have learnt a thing, and the eurosceptic movement is a moribund as ever if that is the best it has to offer. In that sense, the movement itself is the cracked record, endless repeating the same tired, jaded message, while the world carries out without it.

We have to be capable of doing better than that and, until we can, I want no part of it.
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You will note the title of this article is:
08-Jan-2011 - I TOTALLY SUPPORT Richard's Comment re EUroScepticism BUT!

NOW for the 'BUT' - yes I do agree with Richard however I find myself in the position where age and health are taking their toll on my time/energy to fight the good fight, not for myself as I have enjoyed my life and made much of it BUT because I feel I should do all I can to give the future a chance - something I increasingly KNOW it does not have, unless those of the future value increased overpopulation mostly due to over copulation!

In my lifetime ie since 1945 the human population of this planet has risen, so far, from just a tad under 2 Billion people to just short of 7 Billion - of course this has led on its margins to the stripping of forests to build and to create more agricultural space and living room.

First things first - perhaps someone can explain why in Communist China 28% of economic activity is that of The State yet in Britain we now have 53% of economic activity and employment State controlled yet we have absolutely no say over our destiny and are denied the fundamental human right of Self Determination.

When will we be accorded that fundamental human right, when will Democracy be re-patriated, when will we have the right to vote to determine our own future.

When will we have our IN or OUT Referendum on membership of the malign, malevolent and staggeringly damaging Evils of a centralised undemocratic EUropean Union.

It has always been said that the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter when he blows up and kills substantial numbers of an authoritarian political class is that the terrorist has access to a ballot box but a freedom fighter does not and thus his actions are honourable.

Since we are clearly denied the access to the ballot box on the ONE AND ONLY issue that matters when do YOU consider blowing up a gathering of Politicians would be acceptable?

For a self styled and self serving Political class to set rules as to what WE whom they supposedly serve should be allowed to vote on they have clearly lost the plot and it starts to look as if they NEED to be blown up.

I do agree with Richard when he states he can not choose to be associated with the limp wristed misrepresentation of the fact that The EU is NOT our enemy - our enemy are those who betray us at and via Westminster - You will note they cleverly removed the Treason Laws and in 1998 finally removed the death penalty for their criminal behaviour!

Unlike Richard I find I lack the courage to stand nobly by and watch my Country being destroyed and therefore I have chosen to conjoin with what can only be described as the lesser of the evils and use the weak and wishy washy to point out the undeniably corrupt and dishonest. Perhaps I can help put lead in the pencil of the pusillanimous! I can but try in what time energy is granted to me ;-)

When is our Referendum and the RIGHT to self Determination and failing that when shall we start hanging Politicians from lamp posts. Obscene as the action was let us for a moment think of Gabrielle Giffords fighting for survival after finding herself the victim of some crazed youngster encouraged it seems by her having been in the 'Cross Hairs' of Sahra Palin's utterly irresponsible self interested advertising campaign where Congress Woman Gabrielle Giffords was featured as a target, overlayed with the Cross Hairs of a rifle sight!

Gabrielle Giffords' crime was not selling out her Country and her peoples to foreign rule and profligate centralised governance of a wholly debased and alien nature but actively voting, with the best of intentions, for Health Care for all!
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08-Jan-2011 - The EXPRESS Comes Up Trumps!

Hi,

as promised - here is The EXPRESS 20 page coverage of why Britain MUST Leave The EU - to view all 20 pages on line CLICK HERE

It does not open first time, some of the time - persevere it is worth it!

May I suggest you download the entire .pdf onto your own computer just in case it becomes hard to obtain on line.

ENJOY!

Our Thanks for this Patriotic effort on the part of The Express - I just bought 20 copies and gave them to friends!

How about rewarding The Express for making the effort - just print out the pic below.

You can copy it onto your computer and set up a number of them on an A4 sheet to print out and get all your friends to sign:
Thanks - all the more the merrier.

Don't forget to sign:
The Petition
&
The Pledge

whilst you are on this site - links are easily accessed from the right sidebar.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Thursday, 6 January 2011

06 for 08-Jan-2011 HEADS UP for The EXPRESS SUPPLEMENT on Saturday re EU.

06 for 08-Jan-2011 HEADS UP for The EXPRESS SUPPLEMENT on Saturday re EU.

Hi,

Just a Heads-up not to miss The Express Newspaper on Saturday 08-Jan-2011.

We hear the express will be doing a multi page supplement.

Members of The Midnight Group have been able to assist The Express in producing the supplement on The EU and why The UK should pull out of The EU and there will be an article by The EU Referendum Campaign Group's lead spokesman Jon Gaunt.

We understand that Nikki Sinclaire has been working closely with another Sunday paper to raise the profile of The Petition for an IN/OUT Referendum and it is also expected that The Petition will be laid before Parliament by Nikki Sinclaire working with a prominent Labour MP placing The Petition in The HoC Library and on The Speaker's Chair as is the correct procedure.

It is hoped this will lead to an EDM relative to the first 20,000 signatures - It is then planned that a Tory MP of note will do likewise with the next 20,000 (The petition is just short of the 40,000 signatures needed for the second batch, at the moment)

It looks as if we have a busy year ahead of us at The Midnight Group and wish all our supporters well.

Regards to all and have a great 2011.

DON'T FORGET YOUR EXPRESS COPIES on Saturday.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Sunday, 26 December 2010

26-Dec-2010 - EXPRESS - WHY WE WANT A REFERENDUM FOR CHRISTMAS ;-)

26-Dec-2010 - EXPRESS - WHY WE WANT A REFERENDUM FOR CHRISTMAS ;-)

EU LEAVES HEAT AND POWER ON AT PARLIAMENT

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EU bosses spend a fortune on illuminating and heating rooms which are unused for weeks on end
Sunday December 26,2010

 

By James Fielding

EU BOSSES are wasting thousands of pounds of British taxpayers’ money by keeping hundreds of lights burning all night in empty offices at the Strasbourg Parliament.
A fortune is spent every year illuminating and heating rooms which are unused for weeks on end.
The flagrant waste also makes a mockery of the EU’s attempts to reduce its carbon footprint and deliver a “low-energy economy”.
MEPs gather at the £400million building, on France’s border with Germany, for just four days every month.
UKIP MEP Mike Nattrass, who took this picture, last night branded the waste “disgraceful”. He photographed lights blazing away in the Parliament’s main Louise Weiss building and in the adjoining Winston Churchill block.
Light switches and radiators were left on in empty offices, hallways and even the canteen on Thursday evening, long after Eurocrats had packed up and left.
Mr Nattrass, MEP for the West Midlands, added: “This is just another example of the EU gravy train. This has gone on for too long, I am sick and tired of walking past the Strasbourg Parliament and seeing all the office lights left on when nobody is in them.
“On Thursday, voting finished just after midday and MEPs all started to drift off as usual. Hours later I took photographs of light beaming out of the Louise Weiss building and it wasn’t from one room but lots of them.
“I then went into the building the following day on Friday and checked to see if the heating was on and it was. The place was virtually deserted.
“Hardworking Britons will be sick to their stomachs to know their cash is being wasted in this manner. It’s absolutely disgraceful.”
Mr Nattrass also revealed that the majority of the 2,000 offices inside the Parliament have showers, washbasins and TVs that can pick up channels from all over the world. “It’s needless,” he said. “I’ve never used the shower in my office as long as I’ve been an MEP. Why would I need to? I have one before I leave the hotel in the morning.”

The monthly jaunt from the European Parliament in Brussels Belgium to Strasbourg, 216 miles away, is estimated to cost the public an annual £200million.
Yet MEPs are there for voting sessions on just 48 days a year.
Moving various files and equipment between the two cities takes 30 men and 10 large trucks.
The huge cost involved has led to repeated calls to have Brussels as the sole location of the Parliament.
To read the original article CLICK HERE

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Wednesday, 22 December 2010

22-Dec-2010 - NEWS LETTER - EU REFERENDUM

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What are the politicians afraid of? Can you think of one reason why we can’t have a referendum? The government are spending over £80 million on a referendum on our voting system next year – why can’t we have our referendum on the same day?

Until then, have a great Christmas.

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Friday, 17 December 2010

TORY PROMISES - Mr. CAMERON Be A Man & Honour OUR REFERENDUM - YOU PROMISED!

TORY PROMISES - Mr. CAMERON Be A Man & Honour OUR REFERENDUM - YOU PROMISED!

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Monday, April 27 2009

Ahead of the European elections on 4th June, David Cameron has launched a campaign to get Gordon Brown to honour his pledge to give the British people a referendum on the EU Treaty.

In their 2005 election manifesto, Labour promised to hold a referendum on the EU Constitution

David stressed the Lisbon Treaty was a “re-branded” version of that Constitution and attacked Gordon Brown for having “flip-flopped”:

“First he was against the Constitution, then he was for it; one day he promised a referendum, the next he backtracked. While he has chopped and changed, our position has remained exactly the same. We are the only major party to have consistently said that it is up to the British people to decide on our future in Europe.”

David promised that if the Constitution was not in force at the time of the General Election, a Conservative Government would hold a referendum on it, urge a no vote, and reverse Britain’s ratification if successful.

He explained, “I believe that if you make a promise in your manifesto, and the country votes on that manifesto, then you are honour-bound to keep that promise.”

You can join our campaign by signing up to our Facebook page  or downloading our 'EU-turn' widget .

For the original CLICK HERE

CLEARLY The Tory Party and the gonadically challenged wee  Boy King do not believe in the New Constitution aka Lisbon Treaty even pronouncing it as a sham.

They did virtually nothing in opposition to oppose this treacherous betrayal of the people of Britain and now shelter behind the weasel words of 'if the Constitution was not in force at the time of the General Election' .

In the parliamentary debate David Cameron lacked both the courage and the integrity to speak out and tell the truth - they assisted Gordon Brown in his betrayal of these United Kingdoms and the dishonest surrender to this squalid new CONSTITUTION which we now find within a year is being changed to prop up the failed EUro economy and the lies that were told to create it.

David Cameron and The Tories pretend to lead this Country and be the Government but they are the play pen Government of Westminster which is too guttless to do what they told everyone was against the democratic rights and interests of Britain TO GET INTO POWER.

The British Government has so little authority at Westminster that they haven't even got the courage or integrity to do what they said was right for Britain.

David Cameron if you lack the courage to do the honest and democratic things you PROMISED based on what was best for Britain and what you told people to get elected - You misled The Tory Party to get elected as leader - you misled the people to get elected to Government.

David Cameron grow up be a man and run along with your new best friend the duplicitous anti British creep Nick Clegg and get yourself both jobs in The EU - smarmy Nick Clegg the liar of student fees leader of next best to nothing - the Lib.Dims!!! can have Baroness Ashton's unelected job, Boy Dave can replace the near unknown British Commissioner & I'm sure you can find more than the required number of Damp Rags amongst the cabinet to fill the other roles whether duplicitous multi millionaire parasites completely out of touch with the people like you or not!

The British people were PROMISED a Referendum

The Conservative Party
The Lib.Dim Party
The Labour Party

HAVE without exception betrayed the peoples of BRITAIN

Give us OUR Referendum.

YOU WORK FOR US!

See also TheGagged CLICK HERE
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